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Top 10 Reasons Jews DON'T Make Aliyah
by Tamar Yonah
I've heard it all. Excuses, excuses, excuses. But in fact, it is your, "I'll make aliyah only under MY conditions... not G-d's." - THAT is what it comes down to. Every Jew without exception should be yearning to come home.
Today I went to cover the Nefesh B'nefesh flight that came into Israel's Ben Gurion Airport this morning. It was carrying 210 new immigrants from the US and Canada. They broke through their fears and material desires to take their place in history and join the millions of Jews already here in our homeland. They have chosen to BUILD the land and nation of Israel, not stay behind in the dying Exile.
Watch this 17 second video below. Sorry about the quality, it was taken with my cell phone.
Almost 100 of the 210 new immigrants on the flight today were singles. I also came when I was single, but I didn't have the Nefesh B'nefesh fan fare, and my aliyah was a lot more difficult. I'm not complaining though. Our ancestors had it a lot harder than any of us Jews today. Swamps, malaria, British rule, Turkish-Ottoman rule, food rationing, third world standard of living.... I can go down memory lane with you if you like, listing all the hardships we have had to suffer in the past, but that's not what I want to write on this blog entry.
Today, hundreds of Jews attained their goal of coming home, and planting themselves in the Holy Land of Israel. I don't say they made a dream come true, because in order to dream, one has to be asleep. I am talking about people who were determined to make aliyah a conscious goal. They yearned for Israel, and they came. What our brothers and sisters did today was realize the aspirations of our ancestors for the last two thousand years. They have left the Exile and are now going to start a dynasty of their family right here in our homeland. Their grandchildren will say, "I'm an Israeli today because my grandfather (fill in your name) and my grandmother (fill in your name) left the 'Old Country' and came to Israel. You will be remembered for generations for changing the destiny of your family line. Your future seed will now be Israeli because of the goal you set for yourself. And it is not always easy to make aliyah. Though it is luxurious to live in this Land and have virtually all your neighbors be Jewish, with the country celebrating Jewish holidays and every Friday before the Sabbath the air takes on a different feeling, you are coming as someone from a different culture, one that is NOT Jewish. Here, you will learn what it really means to be a Jew.
I often hear a lot of excuses from our brothers and sisters in the Western Exile how they don't want to come to Israel because of X, Y, or Z.
Here are just a few of the examples I have been given by Jews who make excuses why they can't or won't make aliyah...
1) The government is not to their liking.
2) They won't come until there is peace.
3) They don't believe they are obligated to live here until the Moshiach comes (I think that Tzvi Fishman has proven that wrong with the Torah sources given on his blog.)
4) They won't come unless they know they have a job in their field waiting for them.
5) Their kids are too old
6) Their kids are too young
7) They're waiting until they retire
8) They're waiting until they are dead and need to be buried
9) Their furniture won't fit in these small apts. - Honest to goodness, this was an excuse. One American woman looked at my parent's dining room when they were here touring Jerusalem on a pilot trip and the woman said, "I can't make aliyah, I see that my dining room table would never fit into an Israeli apt. that I can afford".
10) I have old sick parents or I am divorced and I can't take my kids with me.
Of the above 10 reasons why most Jews don't make aliyah today.... only number ten has any merit at all. I personally sympathize with divorcees that want to be in their children's lives, and cannot do so if they are forced to leave them in the Old Country. I also understand how someone who feels they cannot come because they are caring for their elderly parent who cannot be moved or travel such a long distance. However, even these two excuses can be argued.
The fact is, that most of our Jewish brothers and sisters who don't want to make aliyah is because they are prisoners.
They are prisoners of their fear and prisoners of the golden cages they have bult for themselves. They are attached to their materialistic life styles and cannot escape. They THINK that they are free, but they are slaves. Slaves to the American dream, wealth, success, materialism, and their THINGS. Nice house, nice car(s), nice shopping. They are living in affluence and they can't extricate themselves.
We KNOW this to be true. I will prove this to you right now.
When one doesn't make aliyah for idealistic reasons, it is for one of two other reasons...
1) Anti-Semitism,
2) Their host country's economic situation is very bad, and it is better in Israel.
When we look and see why we had aliyah from the Soviet Union back in the 1970's, it was because they were living under an anti-Semitic and Communist regime. A Jew could not practice Judaism there under the anti-Semitic USSR, they couldn't get jobs they deserved because they were Jewish, and so they applied to emigrate and come to Israel (or the USA).
They are prisoners in their golden cages.
Today, Jews from France are making aliyah. Many other French Jews are buying homes here in Israel in preparation for a near-future aliyah. They are leaving France to escape their unsympathetic French government in denial about anti-Semitism, and the rising anti-semitic attacks on Jews from France's immigrant Moslem population. It has convinced Jews that they have no future in France anymore.
In the early 90's, we had a massive aliyah from Russia after the Soviet Union broke up. This time it was because the Russian economy was so bad. Israel offered a much better lifestyle and standard of living, and so they made aliyah. (And what a blessing that was for us here in Israel. It is always a blessing for us here in Israel when Jews make aliyah.)
Later, we had a large aliyah from Argentina. The Economy in Argentina suffered a crisis of enormous proportions, and thousands of Jews from that country chose to come on aliyah.
The largest Jewish population in the Exile is in the USA, but they don't want to come for the ten reasons listed above. They are too comfortable. Most Jews in the USA are pretty much removed from Torah. They are Jews who belong to a Conservative or Reform synagogue and do not know their own mother tongue - Hebrew. Most have never learned Torah and many want to shrug off the 'burden' of being a Jew. I want to address the religious Jews who should know better, and should want better.
Jews are weighted down like a heavy bird in the golden cages of the Exile.
We KNOW that G-d gave us this land as our homeland.
We KNOW that the future of the Jewish People is going to be here, in Israel, and not in New York, Monsey, Los Angeles, or London.
We KNOW that we cannot do all the mitzvoth (commandments) unless we are living in Israel.
We KNOW that we were punished in the desert because of the spies who rejected the land of Israel.
We KNOW that G-d wants us to live here and that even today, He is gathering us from the four corners of the earth in line with what our prophets predicted.
And, we KNOW that if anti-Semitism rose to a level that was uncomfortable and too dangerous for Jews in the USA, they would leave America.
And we KNOW that if the economy in America would crash, or that things would be very bad, that these same Jews who are crying out the above 'ten excuses not to make aliyah', would all be converging on the aliyah offices in America and trying to get here.
If you are not yearning for Israel, there is something FUNDAMENTALLY wrong with your Judaism.
If you are not yearning for Israel, there is something FUNDAMENTALLY wrong with your Judaism.
So, to my Jewish brothers and sisters in the West who are belly-aching about this reason or that why they can't or won't or don't HAVE to come on aliyah and return home, --some tough love here for yuh.... if things got bad there where you are, you WOULD come. Because the minute that Israel would offer you better than what you have now, you'd be scratching your heads and saying to your spouses, "maybe we should move to Israel. I hear they have it easier over there." Jews would be flocking to Israel from the West like all the other mass emigrations and aliyahs in history. America will be no different.
No, you won't have the perfect government. You will have to come here and build the nation with us and vote in a better government.
No, you may not come to a country that has 'peace', but America is under threat of massive mega-terror as well. Better to be in a country where almost all the Jews have a gun, know how to use it, and can defend themselves.
No, you will most likely not have a guaranteed job waiting for you, calling your name. You will have to come and interview for jobs just like our own families do here in Israel.
No, your kids aren't too young or too old. This is our home. We are your family. Your kids will adjust. They'll make friends, pick up the language and you'll be asking THEM to help you with your Hebrew.
Don't wait until retirement or until you are dead. You needn't die for Israel. LIVE (here) FOR ISRAEL.
Let go of the weight that keeps you in the Exile. Get out of your slavery to comfort and materialism. Open your golden cages that you have imprisoned yourselves in and come home.
If you consider yourself a Torah believing Jew, then you should AT LEAST be YEARNING to come to Israel. Maybe you feel you can't because of your fear, or your family obligations for elderly parents or lack of custody for your kids, but a Jew should at LEAST be YEARNING to make aliyah and move to Israel. You should at least be saying, "I'd LOVE to come to Israel, but alas, I cannot, I have to care for my sick, elderly mother who can't be moved". ...And if you are not yearning for Israel, if you are not dreaming of the day when you can come home, and instead are very happy in the cage you live in, there is something FUNDAMENTALLY wrong with your Judaism.
by Tamar Yonah
I've heard it all. Excuses, excuses, excuses. But in fact, it is your, "I'll make aliyah only under MY conditions... not G-d's." - THAT is what it comes down to. Every Jew without exception should be yearning to come home.
Today I went to cover the Nefesh B'nefesh flight that came into Israel's Ben Gurion Airport this morning. It was carrying 210 new immigrants from the US and Canada. They broke through their fears and material desires to take their place in history and join the millions of Jews already here in our homeland. They have chosen to BUILD the land and nation of Israel, not stay behind in the dying Exile.
Watch this 17 second video below. Sorry about the quality, it was taken with my cell phone.
Almost 100 of the 210 new immigrants on the flight today were singles. I also came when I was single, but I didn't have the Nefesh B'nefesh fan fare, and my aliyah was a lot more difficult. I'm not complaining though. Our ancestors had it a lot harder than any of us Jews today. Swamps, malaria, British rule, Turkish-Ottoman rule, food rationing, third world standard of living.... I can go down memory lane with you if you like, listing all the hardships we have had to suffer in the past, but that's not what I want to write on this blog entry.
Today, hundreds of Jews attained their goal of coming home, and planting themselves in the Holy Land of Israel. I don't say they made a dream come true, because in order to dream, one has to be asleep. I am talking about people who were determined to make aliyah a conscious goal. They yearned for Israel, and they came. What our brothers and sisters did today was realize the aspirations of our ancestors for the last two thousand years. They have left the Exile and are now going to start a dynasty of their family right here in our homeland. Their grandchildren will say, "I'm an Israeli today because my grandfather (fill in your name) and my grandmother (fill in your name) left the 'Old Country' and came to Israel. You will be remembered for generations for changing the destiny of your family line. Your future seed will now be Israeli because of the goal you set for yourself. And it is not always easy to make aliyah. Though it is luxurious to live in this Land and have virtually all your neighbors be Jewish, with the country celebrating Jewish holidays and every Friday before the Sabbath the air takes on a different feeling, you are coming as someone from a different culture, one that is NOT Jewish. Here, you will learn what it really means to be a Jew.
I often hear a lot of excuses from our brothers and sisters in the Western Exile how they don't want to come to Israel because of X, Y, or Z.
Here are just a few of the examples I have been given by Jews who make excuses why they can't or won't make aliyah...
1) The government is not to their liking.
2) They won't come until there is peace.
3) They don't believe they are obligated to live here until the Moshiach comes (I think that Tzvi Fishman has proven that wrong with the Torah sources given on his blog.)
4) They won't come unless they know they have a job in their field waiting for them.
5) Their kids are too old
6) Their kids are too young
7) They're waiting until they retire
8) They're waiting until they are dead and need to be buried
9) Their furniture won't fit in these small apts. - Honest to goodness, this was an excuse. One American woman looked at my parent's dining room when they were here touring Jerusalem on a pilot trip and the woman said, "I can't make aliyah, I see that my dining room table would never fit into an Israeli apt. that I can afford".
10) I have old sick parents or I am divorced and I can't take my kids with me.
Of the above 10 reasons why most Jews don't make aliyah today.... only number ten has any merit at all. I personally sympathize with divorcees that want to be in their children's lives, and cannot do so if they are forced to leave them in the Old Country. I also understand how someone who feels they cannot come because they are caring for their elderly parent who cannot be moved or travel such a long distance. However, even these two excuses can be argued.
The fact is, that most of our Jewish brothers and sisters who don't want to make aliyah is because they are prisoners.
They are prisoners of their fear and prisoners of the golden cages they have bult for themselves. They are attached to their materialistic life styles and cannot escape. They THINK that they are free, but they are slaves. Slaves to the American dream, wealth, success, materialism, and their THINGS. Nice house, nice car(s), nice shopping. They are living in affluence and they can't extricate themselves.
We KNOW this to be true. I will prove this to you right now.
When one doesn't make aliyah for idealistic reasons, it is for one of two other reasons...
1) Anti-Semitism,
2) Their host country's economic situation is very bad, and it is better in Israel.
When we look and see why we had aliyah from the Soviet Union back in the 1970's, it was because they were living under an anti-Semitic and Communist regime. A Jew could not practice Judaism there under the anti-Semitic USSR, they couldn't get jobs they deserved because they were Jewish, and so they applied to emigrate and come to Israel (or the USA).
They are prisoners in their golden cages.
Today, Jews from France are making aliyah. Many other French Jews are buying homes here in Israel in preparation for a near-future aliyah. They are leaving France to escape their unsympathetic French government in denial about anti-Semitism, and the rising anti-semitic attacks on Jews from France's immigrant Moslem population. It has convinced Jews that they have no future in France anymore.
In the early 90's, we had a massive aliyah from Russia after the Soviet Union broke up. This time it was because the Russian economy was so bad. Israel offered a much better lifestyle and standard of living, and so they made aliyah. (And what a blessing that was for us here in Israel. It is always a blessing for us here in Israel when Jews make aliyah.)
Later, we had a large aliyah from Argentina. The Economy in Argentina suffered a crisis of enormous proportions, and thousands of Jews from that country chose to come on aliyah.
The largest Jewish population in the Exile is in the USA, but they don't want to come for the ten reasons listed above. They are too comfortable. Most Jews in the USA are pretty much removed from Torah. They are Jews who belong to a Conservative or Reform synagogue and do not know their own mother tongue - Hebrew. Most have never learned Torah and many want to shrug off the 'burden' of being a Jew. I want to address the religious Jews who should know better, and should want better.
Jews are weighted down like a heavy bird in the golden cages of the Exile.
We KNOW that G-d gave us this land as our homeland.
We KNOW that the future of the Jewish People is going to be here, in Israel, and not in New York, Monsey, Los Angeles, or London.
We KNOW that we cannot do all the mitzvoth (commandments) unless we are living in Israel.
We KNOW that we were punished in the desert because of the spies who rejected the land of Israel.
We KNOW that G-d wants us to live here and that even today, He is gathering us from the four corners of the earth in line with what our prophets predicted.
And, we KNOW that if anti-Semitism rose to a level that was uncomfortable and too dangerous for Jews in the USA, they would leave America.
And we KNOW that if the economy in America would crash, or that things would be very bad, that these same Jews who are crying out the above 'ten excuses not to make aliyah', would all be converging on the aliyah offices in America and trying to get here.
If you are not yearning for Israel, there is something FUNDAMENTALLY wrong with your Judaism.
If you are not yearning for Israel, there is something FUNDAMENTALLY wrong with your Judaism.
So, to my Jewish brothers and sisters in the West who are belly-aching about this reason or that why they can't or won't or don't HAVE to come on aliyah and return home, --some tough love here for yuh.... if things got bad there where you are, you WOULD come. Because the minute that Israel would offer you better than what you have now, you'd be scratching your heads and saying to your spouses, "maybe we should move to Israel. I hear they have it easier over there." Jews would be flocking to Israel from the West like all the other mass emigrations and aliyahs in history. America will be no different.
No, you won't have the perfect government. You will have to come here and build the nation with us and vote in a better government.
No, you may not come to a country that has 'peace', but America is under threat of massive mega-terror as well. Better to be in a country where almost all the Jews have a gun, know how to use it, and can defend themselves.
No, you will most likely not have a guaranteed job waiting for you, calling your name. You will have to come and interview for jobs just like our own families do here in Israel.
No, your kids aren't too young or too old. This is our home. We are your family. Your kids will adjust. They'll make friends, pick up the language and you'll be asking THEM to help you with your Hebrew.
Don't wait until retirement or until you are dead. You needn't die for Israel. LIVE (here) FOR ISRAEL.
Let go of the weight that keeps you in the Exile. Get out of your slavery to comfort and materialism. Open your golden cages that you have imprisoned yourselves in and come home.
If you consider yourself a Torah believing Jew, then you should AT LEAST be YEARNING to come to Israel. Maybe you feel you can't because of your fear, or your family obligations for elderly parents or lack of custody for your kids, but a Jew should at LEAST be YEARNING to make aliyah and move to Israel. You should at least be saying, "I'd LOVE to come to Israel, but alas, I cannot, I have to care for my sick, elderly mother who can't be moved". ...And if you are not yearning for Israel, if you are not dreaming of the day when you can come home, and instead are very happy in the cage you live in, there is something FUNDAMENTALLY wrong with your Judaism.
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Re: Make Aliyah!
Thu, September 6, 2007 - 11:24 AMsigh.
boring.
quit telling me which of my opinions are valid.
go to burningman. how's that for a suggestion? -
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Re: Make Aliyah!
Thu, September 6, 2007 - 12:15 PMSociety falling further and further into Sedom. BUrning man is modern day Avodah Zara. -
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Re: Make Aliyah!
Thu, September 6, 2007 - 1:44 PMok what about Brasil ???? nice beaches over there lots of lost jews too.. so we can rejoice together... well may be too much sex? I d rather to go back to Brasil do u mind?
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Re: Make Aliyah!
Thu, September 6, 2007 - 2:46 PMKeep in mind that as "Jews with Edge", Yehudi wants to bring us back to the core. Keep in mind, that he has a very particular idea of what that core is. -
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Re: Make Aliyah!
Sat, September 8, 2007 - 9:44 PMI'm speaking metaphorically. Using "edge" in opposition to "core." The two are part of the same thing in the sense that Jews with edge or Jews on the edge are still Jews-- even if most Jews prefer not to be so "edgy."
I would have said "center" but that has too many geometrical conotations.
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Re: Make Aliyah!
Sat, September 8, 2007 - 11:26 PMMy parents made Aliyaa in '72 from Montreal where my dad was a partner in a law firm, doing well.
They made Aliyaa due to Zionism, believing the dream and the righteousness and justness of the cause of Israel.
Now they are both still in Israel, financially comfortable, with friends and nice life styles. Except they are disappointed post Zionists. And I now live in British Columbia, Canada.
There are four children in my family. We all served in the Israeli army. I myself served six months longer than most at 42 months instead of the customary 36 (3 years - for men).
Growing up in Israel was great. But the socialization and propaganda processes are strong there. They must be, to keep people committed to such militarism and none-compromise. Ask any Israeli and you'll find that many get their news on their car radio from Galei-Zahal the radio station staffed and owned by the Israeli army. It is viewed as a good source of information...
Apologists for the different governments in Israel over the years love to point to all kinds of peaceful gestures Israel has supposedly done in its past, but the reality is that Israeli leaders have never truly wanted peace, and neither have most Arab leaders.
Years of conflict, and occupation have poisoned Israel's soul. Israel is also lost to materialism (as Yehudi has rightly blamed North America). There are a zillion cell phones (one of the highest use per capita in the world). Big screen TVs, toy pet dogs, fancy cars...
There are fancy and expensive sushi bars, night clubs, drugs, prostitutes, gay bars, parties sponsored by Red Bull, and Michael Jackson concerts sponsored by Pepsi-co. Israel has McDonalds, and Burger King, and Single Malt scotches and, and bacon wrapped scallops.
Israel used to be a major producer of Goose liver, and the practice of force feeding the geese went on for years before finally being outlawed in the 90's. Environmentally, Israelis feel that they will worry about the state of the planet when they solve the problems with the neighbors, and so you can hardly recycle anything. The land fill is a growing hill that can be seen from a distance, not far from the airport where you'll land when you make aliyah. Israel creates most of its electricity from burning coal and has been slow to seriously harness the abundant sun or wind. Even though Israeli scientists from the solar research Institute at Ben Gurion University in the Negev, are inventing and producing amazing solar power generators and selling them to other countries, Israel has been reluctant to turn to renewables itself. A few wind turbines in the Golan are poster children hiding an addiction to dirty coal.
Economically, Israeli governments in the past 10 years or so have fully embraced the Washington concensus of Free Market, IMF structural adjusments strategies. So the social state is being gutted to the point where single mothers are suffering, schools are in bad shape, recent discoveries have shown that in more than one case Holocaust survivors living in Israel on pensions are starving and even cases of some resorting to eating dog food, you probably find this hard to believe but it was big news in Israel reported on television and in all three major daily newspapers. The gap between the richest Israelis and the poorest ones has increased tremendously, and the ranks of the Middle Class have been shrinking in favor of the poor and working poor.
Israel like much of the world has given up on the idea that governments need to try and benefit all their citizens out of a sense of service and democratic ownership of the people over the budgetary resources. Israeli governments are rife with corruption, politicians are serving special interests and selling out to banks and corporations, or to religious blackmail. And of course lots of the money goes to weapons manufacturers.
Israel has lost its way. The People who consider themselves to be setting an example to the world (Jews) are acting out of blindness, reaction, lack of compassion, and moral relativism of a level that we have deplored in people who have oppressed us in the past.
Israel claims to represent all Jews and so I often find myself in a position where people want me to defend Israel's actions. But I can not.
I go to Israel to visit once a year because most of my family live there and because I still have many friends living there. I love the beaches, the food, the community feeling, the openness. But I am done living there. The oppression has become unbearable, and I have lost hope for a better future. I used to be politically active in Israel, but decided that I am ready to sever destinies with Israel.
The idea was nice, its a shame it turned out so foul. That fault lies in the leaders and the mainstream propaganda machine using and deceiving the people.
And if you think I am being to harsh, or maybe you want to call me self hating Jew or something like that, which will relieve you of the need to address my points... rest assured I don't actually think that Canada or the US are morally better, or more just.
But I do feel more hope here. There are more like minded people to work with and there are more places to escape from the mainstream paradigm and work on creating alternatives. I am building my community here, and it is not based on ones race.
I honestly and whole-heartedly wish Israel and its inhabited well. I hope you manage to create a lasting peace. The world will be a better place if people stop trying to win, and rather switch to trying to understand one another and come to a solution that works for everyone.
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Re: Make Aliyah!
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 8:22 AMIlan,
Thanks for that perspective.
I think there's a lot of US Jews who have no idea how to express their conflicted feelings about the situation. For me, there's no one black-and-white answer to my love and difficulty with the place.
I appreciate your clearly written viewpoint as an alternative.
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Re: Make Aliyah!
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 8:37 AMI sum it up as all human societies are flawed, democracies (Israel included) are just a type of society where the flaws are visible for all to see.
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Re: Make Aliyah!
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 12:48 PMMy understanding was that as we all return we will move from that flawed democracy into the state of equilibrium, that we are all parts of a hologram and until we are whole we cannot individually accomplish what we are meant to accomplish as a whole nation, whether we are on the edge are in the core, the reality is, we need each other to make a wholeness that exceeds our individuality to make a vessel that can contain this light that we all so desperately yearn for in our souls. There is some genetic geometric matrix that the land has to do with activating our cellular oneness some realization that the flys in the logic of those 10 reasons and the 10,000 more than our conscious and subconscious would throw at us, the very fact that Jews hold such a diverse self expression attests to the dynamic that our surrender to the stewardship of the land would create an incredible synthesis of prismatic brilliant world changing light.
As long as we're spinning within our own self sustained orbits across this globe, we are but beautiful individuals, but when we release are self to the vortex dynamics of holding sacred space in the land there is a life filled implosion that will transform this world.
As Jews who live on the edge let us experience both center and circumference
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Re: Make Aliyah!
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 4:44 PMYosef,
Your understanding has a lot of merit, and I much prefer it to Yehudi's understanding. However, I find ideas that assume that this racial group or another have some sort of higher purpose than all the rest, to be highly problematic and lead to divisiveness not unity and harmony. How can I claim to be a light onto the world above all others? Isn't that supremacist as in we are the supreme race?
I am a brother to all of creation, not only to Jews (not only to humans for that matter, not only for animals for that matter... I am a brother to the trees and the animals too). I wish to tie my destiny with all those who seek the light. I wish to learn and assimilate Tribal wisdom, Buddhist wisdom, Zen wisdom, Christian and Muslim wisdom (the original teachings, not the horrible interpretations of most of the churches). Jewish wisdom and values have themselves been corrupted to no end by many people, organizations and groups... Many of said groups consider themselves religious and of course are the only ones who really understand "what god meant to say" (to quote the prophet Bill Hicks ;-)
The idea of a genetic geometric matrix that is tied to the land of Israel has a beautiful appeal, but it would be a hard sell to the millions of Palestinians living in the ghettos of Gaza and the West Bank: "hang in there guys, pretty soon, when ALL the Jews arrive, there will be harmony and it will be better for everyone... you too. In the meantime stop resisting the occupation or we'll make you sorry..."
There is a reality on the ground right now, and I can not ignore it out of a hope for a future metaphysical, cosmic magical possibility. You are not only suggesting that we Jews with edge ignore the reality, but rather that we exacerbate the problem by sending another 6...7...8...(?) million Jews to Israel to take part in land grabs and fuel the occupying forces.
I am sorry, I have a problem with that, despite the cosmic appeal of a holographic transformation into harmony once the genetic Jewish matrix aligns with the land.
Peace,
Ilan
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Re: Make Aliyah!
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 9:43 PM"We KNOW that G-d gave us this land as our homeland. " Really? How do you know this? Did God tell you himself? Whatever was written 6700 years ago has obviously changed a lot. "Be fruitful and multiply" was written before overpopulation was a problem.
"The government is not to their liking. " is a bit of an understatement. How can anyone feel ok about going to a supposed "homeland" to be free from persecution, when the oppressed became the oppressor?
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Re: Make Aliyah!
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 8:38 AMKeep in mind that Yehudi often posts links to Kahannist materials to this tribe-- which I see as support of an ideology that is directly opposed to Israeli democracy and indeed much of many believe to be Israel's better characteristics.
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